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SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
OF THE
LANDMARKS
COMMISSION AND
ARCHITECTURAL
REVIEW BOARD
AND REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION Founded 1875 “Populus felix in urbe felici” |
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Monday, December 13, 2004 6:00 PM |
City Council
Chambers, Room 213 |
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CALL TO ORDER OF THE JOINT MEETING OF THE LANDMARKS
COMMISSION AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
6:10 PM
1.
ROLL CALL Landmarks
Commission
John Berley, Commissioner
Barbara Kaplan, Commissioner
Colin Maduzia, Commissioner
Deborah
Levin, Commissioner
Architectural Review Board
Joan
Charles, Chairperson
Rodolfo
Alvarez
Tania
Fischer
Michael
Folonis
Edouard
Mimieux
Absent: William Adams, Vice-Chairperson
2.
INTRODUCTION
OF CITY PLANNING STAFF
3.
TRAINING
SESSION (approximately 1 hour): Presentation by Professor Ken Breisch regarding
the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Treatment of Historic Properties.
4.
ADJOURMENT OF
THE JOINT MEETING OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD 7:20 PM
CALL
TO ORDER OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION (To begin at 7:00 pm) 7:25 PM
1.
ROLL CALL
John Berley, Commissioner
Barbara Kaplan, Commissioner
Colin Maduzia, Commissioner
Deborah
Levin, Commissioner
Also Present:
Barry
Rosenbaum, Senior Land Use Attorney
Arlene
Johnson, Staff Assistant
2.
REPORT FROM
STAFF:
Ms. Tanemori
announced that the proposed Development Agreement at
3.
COMMISSIONER
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco announced that the Santa Monica Conservancy is hosting a tour of the
Third Street Historic District. It will
be held on January 30th from 12:00 – 5:00 pm. For more information, please visit the
website at: www.smconservancy.org.
4.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES:
A. November 8, 2004
Commissioner
Lehrer made a motion to approve the minutes.
Commissioner Kaplan seconded the motion, which passed by voice vote with
Chairperson Genser and Commissioner Levin abstaining. The following correction was noted by Chair
Pro Tem Fresco: Page 5, 1st
paragraph, 5th line, replace the word “and” with “which”.
5.
APPROVAL OF
STATEMENTS OF OFFICIAL ACTION:
A. Statement of Official Action: Certificate
of Appropriateness Application LC-04CA-008, 1911 La Mesa Drive, Approving Installation
of Exterior Louvers Over the Front Windows.
Commissioner
Lehrer noted the following correction: Page
2 under Findings, first line, replace “does” with “does not”.
B. Findings and
Determination: Landmark Designation Application LC-04LM-008,
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco made a motion to approve Items 5A with correction and 5B. Commissioner Maduzia seconded the motion,
which passed by the following vote:
Ayes: Berley, Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer,
Maduzia
Nayes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: Genser, Levin
C. Findings and
Determination: Landmark Designation Application LC-04LM-004,
Chairperson
Genser made a motion to consider Items 10B, 10C and 10G with this item. Commissioner Kaplan seconded the motion,
which passed unanimously by voice vote.
The following
member of the public addressed the Commission:
Chris Harding, Attorney, representing Sears.
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco made a motion to reconsider the Sears Statement of Official Action. Commissioner Lehrer seconded the motion, which
passed by the following vote:
Ayes: Berley, Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer,
Levin, Maduzia, Genser
Nayes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
Commissioner
Lehrer stated that the most practical position would be to nominate the parcel,
and to specify on it that the main Sears building is the most important
structure meeting all of the criteria in the Landmark Ordinance. The accessory building that was originally
constructed as a Service Station and later converted into a
Mr. Rosenbaum
stated that if the Commission were inclined to only landmark the main building,
and not the Garden Center, the approach that staff would likely take with the
Statement of Official Action would be to clearly indicate that only the main
Sears building is being landmarked, according to the findings, and therefore
discussion of the Garden Center would not be in the landmark findings
section. Discussion of the
Commissioner
Lehrer stated that what needs to be mentioned is that the accessory building is
not an individual landmark. It has been
substantially altered from its original use as a Service Station to become a
Commissioner
Lehrer made a motion to Landmark the Sears main building and the parcel. The
Ayes: Berley, Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer,
Levin, Maduzia, Genser
Nayes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
6. PUBLIC
INPUT: (On
items not on agenda and within the jurisdiction of the Commission)
None.
7. CONSENT CALENDAR:
None.
8. OLD
BUSINESS:
A. Landmark
Designation Application LC-04LM-007, 225 Santa Monica Boulevard (Bay Cities
Guaranty Building) to determine whether the structure should be designated as a
City Landmark. (Continued from November
8, 2004)
Ms. Tanemori
presented the staff report.
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco made a motion to designate
Ayes: Berley,
Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer, Levin, Maduzia, Genser
Nayes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
9. NEW BUSINESS/PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Ms. Tanemori
presented the staff report.
Vice Chair
Fresco reminded the Commission that their job was to oversee the historic character
of the Pier, which is not only the buildings that are historic thereof, but to
maintain the continual and improved character and spirit of the Pier as it was
traditionally and historically developed.
She stated that the Pier Guidelines are not rules but standards by which
they can make findings. The guidelines
encourage a lot of creativity. One of
the most interesting consistent themes of the guidelines is that every aspect
of the Pier should be interesting to look at, and inviting to passers by from
all sides, and that particularly applies to this building because it is
adjacent to the main vehicle entry into the parking, restrooms, etc. There should be a constant awareness of Pier,
beach and ocean environment, breaks and massing to encourage north/south view
corridors are encouraging opening up walls, more glass and less mass.
Commissioner
Lehrer stated that she was pleased with the treatment of this proposal because it
incorporates visual variation. She was not
bothered by some components of it having an industrial look because Piers
originally were just utilitarian places.
All of it doesn’t have to be designer places. Also, it has many design elements that are
fun and inventive.
Commissioner
Kaplan felt that there was a lot of variation and whimsy in the proposed design,
and a lot of the character that’s starting to be developed on the Pier. She was intrigued by the concept of the wind
tower but was disappointed when she saw it on the drawings. It
looked more interesting in the perspective than on the elevations. She felt that the idea had much more potential,
such as the detail of the signage at the bathrooms. There are lots of details and developments
that can make or break this project. Overall,
she liked the schematic idea.
Chairperson
Genser stated that it would be nice to have an alternative to the flap façade
with the doors.
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco stated that the east and south façade need to be more in context with
the Pier theme of fun, and not so industrial, and if the chain link fence needs
to remain across certain portions of it, it can be done in a way that suits the
nautical theme.
Commissioner
Berley also stated that the drawings are inadequate and there needs to be more
information. Perhaps a color material
board with material samples on it so they will know what the finish product
will look like. It appears that there is
a lot of information that is being recommended to staff before the Commission
has a chance to weigh in. He feels this
information should come to the Commission for evaluation and then they will direct
staff if they have any concerns.
Vice Chair
Fresco stated that the new bathrooms are whimsical and gregarious. She would like the privacy screen to be made
of a more durable material that will be easy to maintain. She liked the wave over the ice cream stand
as a concept, but felt that it would create a problem for people wanting to put
up signage because it would overlap with the architecture.
Commissioner
Kaplan commented on the roof ventilation system, she was concerned that the
mechanical system over the bathrooms would violate the purity of that
wave. How would it be incorporated into
that design without interfering with the form and the expression of the wave?
Commissioner
Berley made a motion that the applicant return next month with a new set of
plans (1 full-scale and 6 half-scale), material boards and colors, delineating
what is occurring with this project, per the recommendations that have been
made. Commissioner Lehrer seconded the
motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote.
The following
member of the public addressed the Commission: Rob Loesch, Airport Concessions
California.
Commissioner
Berley had a concern with the triangulation support in that it seemed somewhat
ill-considered. The plans are showing an
expressive armature and then a rod acting as a brace. If there is going to be such ornamentation on
the armature itself, then it would be nice to articulate the bracing also with
a similar type of ornamentation and have it come off of both sides to the
mid-point of the armature so that it acts as a complete design.
Commissioner
Kaplan also mentioned that the proposed sign should incorporate curving the
letters for “The Carousel Gift Shop”.
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco made a motion to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness to include
articulating the triangulation on the armature and curving the letters on the
carousel gift shop sign. Chairperson
Genser seconded the motion, which passed by the following vote:
Ayes: Berley,
Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer, Levin, Maduzia, Genser
Nayes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
Ms. Tanemori
presented the staff report.
The following
member of the public addressed the Commission:
Brian Murphy, Project Architect.
Commissioner
Kaplan stated that the mass and articulation of the roof doesn’t feel elegant
enough for this house. It’s too massive
and needs to be broken up more. She also
stated that, in the original set, looking at the south elevation, the scale and
size of the windows and dormers feel better.
The windows reach higher under the eaves, and the eave touches the top
of the window in the old scheme. In the
new scheme, the windows are cut out more on a flat façade. The dormers are a different form in the original
scheme. They are elongated and read very
square in the new scheme.
Commissioner
Berley made a motion to bring this item back next month and requested that the
architect address the proportion between the roof and windows, and massing of
the addition. Chairperson Genser
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote.
10. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
1.
C3C-Downtown
Overlay
Assembly Hall, Foyer,
Sunday School, Church Offices & Auxillary Rooms
Structure Not Identified
in the Historic Resources Inventory
The following
member of the public addressed the Commission:
Ken Kutcher, Attorney representing the First Church of Christ Scientist.
Chair Pro Tem
Fresco felt that this is a fine building and stated that this same architect
built the Graduate School of Business Administration at UCLA. She would like to see more research of the
building.
Mr. Kutcher stated that state law grants religious
institutions the right to exempt themselves from historic preservation, which includes
preservation laws of chartered cities. This
right was confirmed by the Supreme Court in the year 2000. Pursuant to the government code section that grants
these religious institutions the right to exempt themselves, which is section 37361
Su vision A, the church has decided to object to any designation of its sanctuary,
church offices, sunday school and other religious facilities at this location.
Commissioner
Lehrer asked if the church would consider putting the property up for sale
prior to demolition to see whether or not there is someone who would purchase
it. This could accomplish their goals of
providing for their needs as a religious organization in a way that didn’t
involve the demolition.
Mr. Kutcher
stated that the church has been dealing with this issue for 2 years. They have
been at this location since 1927, and would like to remain there.
Chairperson
Genser stated that the building is significant architecturally, and would like
to receive an analysis from PCR for the record.
Commissioner
Berley stated that what the church erected in 1963, in his opinion, is an
exceptional piece of modern architecture, and especially spiritual. It’s a beautiful building.
Commissioner
Maduzia concurred with previous statements.
He also stated that the Commission’s job is to look at architecture in
the context of preservation and its importance to the City.
Chairperson
Genser made a motion to bring this item back next month with more information
regarding the legal issues raised by Mr. Kutcher and the architectural
significance of the building.
Commissioner Berley seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by
voice vote.
2.
R3-Medium Density
Multi-Family
Four Units w/1 Detached,
Four Car Garage
Structure Not Identified in the Historic
Resources Inventory
3.
R3-Medium
Density Multi-Family
Four Units w/1 Detached,
Four Car Garage
Structure Not Identified in the Historic
Resources Inventory
4.
R1-Single Family
Residential
Single Family Residence
w/Detached Garage
Structure
Not Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory
5.
R2-Low Density
Multiple Residential
Single Family
Residence w/Detached Two-Car Garage
Structure Not
Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory
6.
R2-Low Density
Multiple Residential
Single Family
Residence w/Detached Two-Car Garage
Structure Not
Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory
The following
member of the public addressed the Commission:
Elizabeth Terry.
7.
R1-Single Family
Residential
Single Family Residence
and Guest House
Structure Not
Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory
8.
1711 Ocean Front Walk (PC016867)
R3R-Medium
Density Multiple Family Residential
Single Family
Residence
Structure Not
Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory
9.
OP-Duplex Residential
Single Family Dwelling,
Garage, Tool shed & Greenhouse
Structure Identified in the Historic Resources Inventory as
5S1
Previously submitted on December 10, 2001 (PC012499)
10.
R1-Single Family
Residential
One-Story, Single Family
Residence w/Detached 2-Car Garage
Structure Not Identified
in Historic Resources Inventory
11.
R1-Single Family
Residential
One-Story, Single Family
Residence and Detached Garage
Structure Identified in Historic Resources Inventory – 5D1
There was no action
taken on Item 10A(2-11).
B.
Discussion of whether to reconsider the Landmarks
Commission’s October 11, 2004 decision on Landmark Designation Application
LC-04LM-004,
This item was discussed earlier with Item 5C.
C.
Reconsideration of the Landmarks Commission’s October
11, 2004 decision on Landmark Designation Application LC-04LM-004,
This item was discussed earlier with Item 5C.
D. Discussion of the Historic Preservation Element and ways in which the goals and policies of this Element can be integrated into the Land Use Element and Zoning Ordinance Project. Discussion of the next steps including formation of an ad-hoc subcommittee of Landmarks Commissioners to prepare recommendations for the Landmarks Commission to review and submit to City Planning staff during the public outreach component of the Land Use Element and Zoning Ordinance Project.
Chair Pro Tem Fresco commented on several subjects in the Land Use Element, and offered some changes and inclusions.
Commissioner Kaplan commented on the number of projects involving courtyard properties. The City is losing the low density in the R2 district every month when one of these courtyards properties goes down. How do we maintain the density and not keep people from getting the full value of their property?
Commissioner Berley stated that the Zoning Ordinance conflicts with the Historic Preservation Element. The Land Use Element encourages a certain atmosphere that the Zoning Ordinance doesn’t appear to.
After further discussion, the Commission formed a subcommittee consisting of Commissioners Genser, Fresco, Berley and Kaplan as an alternate. This committee will meet and report back in January on its findings.
E. Proposed Demolition Permit Review Team Schedule for 2005.
F. Planning Commission Case List (Information Only).
G. Clarification of Landmarks Ordinance (SMMC 9.36) related to designation of City Landmarks and criteria for subsequent Certificate of Appropriateness review for demolition, alterations & new construction.
This item was discussed earlier with Item 5C.
11. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
None.
12. FUTURE
AGENDA ITEMS: (Requests from
Commissioners to add items to upcoming agendas)
Commissioner Lehrer requested to agendize a discussion of the report from the subcommittee on the Land Use Element and Zoning Ordinance.
Chairperson Genser requested to agendize possible changes to the landmarks procedures and definitions.
Commissioner Berley requested to agendize consideration of the priority list for landmark designations.
13. NEXT MEETING DATE AND COMMISSION AGENDA: Monday, January 10, 2005.
14. ADJOURNMENT:11:06 PM