MINUTES

 

REGULAR MEETING OF THE

LANDMARKS COMMISSION

 

Founded 1875

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Monday, February 12, 2007

7:00 PM

City Council Chambers, Room 213

1685 Main Street, Santa Monica

 

 

CALL TO ORDER OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION: The meeting was called to order at 7:06 pm.

 

1.                  ROLL CALL: Present:        John Berley

Nina Fresco, Chairperson

Roger Genser

Barbara Kaplan

Ruthanne Lehrer

Ruth Shari (Arrived at 7:10 pm)

 

                            Also Present:         Kevin McKeown, City Council Liaison

Barry Rosenbaum, Senior Land Use Attorney

Steve Traeger, Urban Designer

Jing Yeo, Senior Planner, Acting Commission

            Secretary

Susan Umeda, Recording Secretary

 

2.                  PRESENTATION BY EILEEN FOGARTY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, REGARDING FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO PLANNING PROCESS.

 

The presentation by Eileen Fogarty, Director of Planning and Community Development, was postponed.

 

3.                  REPORT FROM STAFF:

 

Staff reported on items to be brought forth at future Landmarks Commission meetings, rescheduling of upcoming appeals, progress on the Historic Resources Inventory, recruitment efforts for the Third Street Citizen Participation Committee, and the upcoming CPF Conference.

 

Commission Genser inquired as to whether the vacancy on the Landmarks Commission has been filled and the outcome of the extension in the back of City Hall that came before the City Council.  City Council Liaison McKeown responded that this will come before the Council on February 13, 2007.

 

Chair Fresco inquired on the progress of streetscape issues that were discussed in previous meetings.

 

4.                  COMMISSIONER ANNOUNCEMENTS:  None

 

5.                  APPROVAL OF MINUTES:

 

5-A.     January 8, 2007

 

Commissioner Shari arrived at 7:10 pm.

 

Commissioner Genser asked for a correction on Page 10, specifically “he has done some outreach and has general support for the idea” should be changed to “there is some concern and that he has done some outreach.”  On the bottom of Page 11 regarding the cameras at the Carousel, his concern was the conduits, not cameras, were obtrusive.

 

Commissioner Lehrer asked that her name be changed on the cover from “Lehrere” to “Lehrer”

 

Chair Fresco asked for a correction on Page 12, specifically, “if they think the neighborhood would be better served by a new one, the lamp will be replaced with a new one” should be “if they think the neighborhood would be better served by a modern one, the lamp will be replaced with a modern one.”

 

Commissioner Genser made a motion to approve minutes with corrections.  Commissioner Lehrer seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote with Commissioner Kaplan abstaining.

 

6.                  APPROVAL OF STATEMENTS OF OFFICIAL ACTION:

 

6-A.     Certificate of Appropriateness Application 06CA-021, 2402 Fourth Street #4, denying the request for approval of reconstruction of the brick work on the front porch of a contributing residence located within Hollister Court, a designated City Landmark.

 

Commissioner Lehrer stated that the rationale behind negative findings should be clear and specific as this issue will go before the City Council.  Commissioner Lehrer made the following suggestions: [1] the sentence on the first page, second line from the bottom, specifically “would disturb the balance of the spatial configuration of units within the courtyard,” was not the central issue as the work would introduce a modern intrusion into the unified and consistent design and materials of the historic porches in the courtyard; [2] the last two words on the first page, “does not replace the removed solid-color red bricks in-kind” should be “does not match the removed solid-color red bricks in-kind, as required by the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for the Treatment of Historic Properties.”  Commissioner Lehrer stated that she would like to add a quote from the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for the Treatment of Historic Properties, specifically “Deteriorated historic fixtures will be repaired rather than replaced.  Where the severity of deterioration requires replacement of the distinctive feature, the new feature will match the old in design, color, texture and, where possible, materials.” 

 

Commissioner Berley asked that the first sentence be changed; specifically “the proposed project at 2402 Fourth Street #4” should be “the project at 2402 Fourth Street #4” because the work was already completed.

 

Chair Fresco made a motion to continue this matter until the March 12, 2007 Landmarks Commission meeting.

 

7.         PUBLIC INPUT:

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: Marjorie Campbell (landmarking of 2254-2264 Twenty-Ninth Street).

 

8.         CONSENT CALENDAR:   None.

 

9.         OLD BUSINESS:

 

9-A.     Certificate of Appropriateness Application, 04CA-009, 320 Santa Monica Pier, for design approval of a new public restroom facility and ice cream kiosk, and for minor modifications to the existing Pier Maintenance/Police Substation Building on the Santa Monica Pier. (Continued from October 9, 2006)

 

Ms. Yeo gave the staff report.  Staff found that the project is consistent with the requirements and regulations listed within the Pier Design Guidelines and recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness.

 

Chair Fresco asked that the material of the doors on the east side of the storage buildings be clarified.  Ms. Yeo responded that they are aluminum-framed doors with glass in the middle.

 

Commissioner Berley asked if a materials samples board was prepared and also asked staff about the placement of the exterior lighting.  Lighting has been proposed but is not provided in the screen area as the ambient light was deemed sufficient.  Commissioner Berley asked if staff received a photometric study to verify the light in the screen area.  Ms. Yeo responded that staff has not received a study yet.

 

Commissioner Kaplan inquired about the solar panel array on the roof and differences between the line drawing and axonometric drawing.  Ms. Yeo responded that the axonometric drawing had a rendering error where the kiosk and the restroom do not touch; the line drawings are correct.

 

Commissioner Lehrer stated that she was under the impression that the solar panels were the proposed material for the roof.  Ms. Yeo responded that this is not the case at this time due to possible budgetary constraints; the roof will be standing seam metal.

 

Chair Fresco reopened the public hearing.

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: Jerry Rubin and Halil Parlar.

 

Commissioner Berley made a motion to continue this matter until March 12, 2007 and request that the applicant be present for that meeting.  Commissioner Lehrer seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote.

 

10.       NEW BUSINESS/PUBLIC HEARINGS:   

 

10-A.   Review of Demolition Permits and Consideration Whether to File an Application for Designation of a Structure as a City Landmark or Structure of Merit.

 

The Commission made ex parte communication disclosures.

 

1.         1423 Seventh Street (06PC1732)

C3 – Downtown Commercial

Multi-Family Residence

Structure Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

Discussion held.  The following members of the public addressed the Commission:  A.J. Jarasunas and Craig Jones.  No action taken.

 

2.         616 Nineteenth Street (06PC1496)

R1 – Single Family Residential

Single Family Residence with Garage

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

3.         1723 Bryn Mawr Avenue (07PC0021)

R1 – Single Family Residential

Single Family Residence with Garage

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

4.         1231 Fourth Street (07PC0041)

BSC3 – Bayside Commercial

Two-Story Commercial Building

Structure Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: John Reed who is the architect on the project.

 

Commissioner Genser asked Mr. Reed if a demolition permit was required because the project is a substantial remodel.  Mr. Reed responded that the applicant was going to remodel the building; however, there is a zoning problem because the existing building is an office building but zoning regulations require the space to be leased to a commercial enterprise, therefore, it was decided to demolish the existing building.

 

Commissioner Lehrer commented that building is architecturally wonderful.  She noted that the building has wonderful design features such as the glass blocks and canopy.  She also noted that the use issue is puzzling; the Commission often works to preserve landmarks by variances and discretionary permits to make a building viable.  Commissioner Lehrer recommends not approving the demolition at this meeting.

 

Commissioner Berley asked staff if this relates to the idea of zoning requirements, such as retail structures must be 75% transparent to the street, working in concert with historic preservation.  Ms. Yeo responded that there is a requirement in the zoning code for ground floor pedestrian orientation and transparency; however, there is also a provision that some of those requirements could be potentially overridden for concerns such as historic preservation or insurmountable design issues and each situation would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.  Commissioner Berley asked Mr. Reed if the applicant would modify the façade in a manner that accommodated the code.  Mr. Reed responded that even if the transparency issue is resolved, there is a problem with leasing the space; the small doors and curved glass blocks make the building difficult to lease to a retail tenant as the building was not designed to accommodate that type of use. 

 

Commissioner Genser asked Mr. Reed if the façade is original.  Mr. Reed responded that the façade is not original.  Mr. Reed advised that the building was probably remodeled over the last fifty years. 

 

Commissioner Lehrer stated that she is not persuaded that a use cannot be found for this building; the building might be suitable for design studios, offices, and other professional uses.

 

Commissioner Berley stated that he is in favor of getting more information in regard to alterations to the building which will help the Commission understand whether or not this building is a resource that should be preserved.

 

Commissioner Berley made a motion to continue this matter until March 12, 2007 and that staff provide the Commission with additional historic information.  Commissioner Shari seconded the motion. 

 

A roll call vote was held and the motion was approved by the following vote:

AYES: Berley, Fresco, Genser, Kaplan, Lehrer, Shari

 

5.         749 Seventeenth Street (07PC0051)

R2 – Low Density Multiple Residential

Two Each Two-Story Buildings with Five Residential Units

Structure Not Identified in Historic Resources Inventory

 

Commissioner Kaplan recused herself.  No action taken.

 

6.         745 Seventeenth Street (07PC0052)

R2 – Low Density Multiple Residential

Two Each Two-Story Buildings with Five Residential Units

Structure Not Identified in Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

7.         1038 Twenty-First Street (07PC0070)

R2 – Low Density Multiple Residential

Single Residential Structure with Garage

Structure Not Identified in Historic Resources Inventory

 

Discussion held.  No action taken.

 

8.         518 Marine Street (07PC0082)

OP2 – Ocean Park Low Multiple Family

Single Family Residence with Garage

Structure Not Identified in Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

9.         535 Nineteenth Street (07PC0084)

R1 – Single Family Residential

Existing Two-Story Residence and Detached Two-Car Garage

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

10.       1119 Twentieth Street (07PC0091)

R2 – Low Density Multiple Residential

2-Unit Apartment Building

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

11.       1121 Twentieth Street (07PC0092)

R2 – Low Density Multiple Residential

3-Unit Apartment Building

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

No action taken.

 

12.       2721 Washington Avenue (07PC0093)

R1 – Single Family Residential

Single Family Residence with Garage

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

Commissioner Lehrer recused herself.  No action taken.

 

13.       464 Twenty-First Place (07PC0125)

R1 – Single Family Residential

Single Family Residence with Garage

Structure Not Identified on the Historic Resources Inventory

 

Commissioner Lehrer noted that this is a Spanish revival house which has wonderful and unique design features.  Commissioner Lehrer stated that the Commission should investigate the matter even if the building is not on the Historic Resources Inventory.

 

Commissioner Kaplan noted that the building is somewhat eclectic in regard to period as some of the details that were added were not a pure example of a Mission or Spanish-style vernacular; the building is a mix of styles.

 

Commissioner Lehrer made a motion to continue this item and request further information on the builder and integrity of the building.  Commissioner Berley seconded the motion.

 

A roll call vote was held and the motion was approved by the following vote:

AYES: Berley, Fresco, Genser, Kaplan, Lehrer, Shari

 

11.       DISCUSSION ITEMS:

 

11-A.   Discussion on whether to file an application to nominate 2001-2011 Main Street as a City Landmark or Structure of Merit. (Continued from December 11, 2006)

 

Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum commented that the following are a few main avenues which the Commission could take in reviewing this matter: [1] assess whether an application to nominate the property should be filed; and [2] decide not to make determination during this meeting. He stated that the Commissioners should not interject themselves into the community process that might be currently ongoing if a determination is not made.

 

The Commission made ex parte communication disclosures. 

 

Commissioner Lehrer made a motion to grant each member of the public two minutes to present their case.  Commissioner Shari seconded the motion.

 

The motion was approved by voice vote

AYES: Berley, Fresco, Kaplan, Lehrer, Shari

NAYS: Genser

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: Jacob Samuel, Chris King, Doug Ehlers, Jeff Ho, Allen Sarlo, Halil Parlar, Deborah Levin, Britt Allcroft, Josette Leroy, Ken Kutcher (attorney for owner), John English, Paul Hoffman, Shannon Leavey, Marcello Vavala, Jenna Linnekens, Abby Arnold, Josh Serrano, Blair Calderhead, Jerry Rubin, Carlos Pires.

 

Commissioner Lehrer asked Mr. Samuel if the petition has first names, last names and addresses.  Mr. Samuel responded that only the written petition has that information; however, the on-line petition has only comments and names.

 

Commissioner Genser asked Ms. Levin if the “soul” of the building would survive if it had a different use.  Ms. Levin responded it will be easier to keep the “soul” of the building alive if the surf shop remains than to have a mural celebrating skateboarding and surfing.

 

Commissioner Genser noted that Mr. Kutcher wrote a letter to Barbara Stinchfield regarding possible input or funding from the Arts Commission and asked Mr. Kutcher if he received a response to that letter and if he spoke to the Arts Commission about this matter.  Mr. Kutcher responded that he did not receive a response and has not been to the Arts Commission.  Commissioner Lehrer asked Mr. Kutcher if he would keep the Commission apprised of any development of continuing the existing use without the existing building if the Commission does not take action.  Mr. Kutcher responded in the affirmative.  Commissioner Berley asked Mr. Kutcher if the historic consultant is present.  Mr. Kutcher advised that he is not present.

 

Commissioner Genser asked Mr. Vavala if he is suggesting that the Commission get further information without filing an application.  Mr. Vavala responded that the Commission should go forward with the assessment.  Commissioner Lehrer noted that the Commission could file an application and then decide what action is appropriate.

 

Chair Fresco received two late chits from members of the public.  Commissioner Genser made a motion to hear these members of the public.  Commissioner Lehrer seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote.

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: Richard Wechsler, Juli Doar (owner).

 

Commissioner Genser asked Ms. Doar about the direction of the project.  Ms. Doar responded that the City would be better served to integrate a work of art that commemorates the Z-Boys and the Santa Monica lifestyle into a new building.  Commissioner Genser asked Ms. Doar if she would consider incorporating the façade of the existing building into the new design.  Ms. Doar responded that the fabric of the neighborhood could be better achieved with a new building.  Commissioner Berley asked Ms. Doar to clarify community’s reaction to the project.  Ms. Doar responded that nine people attended a January 11, 2007 community meeting and two people did not want any development and four people wanted the building landmarked.  Commissioner Berley asked Ms. Doar if members of the community were asked to consider alternative ideas about commemoration or were they asked if the building should be retained.  Ms. Doar responded that twenty-five people attended the second meeting and six spoke against any new development, four spoke of preserving the business at the site, two spoke in favor of private property rights, and two supported the art commemoration alternative. 

 

Chair Fresco noted that an overwhelming number of people were interested in this topic; however, a consensus on how to proceed could not be made.  She noted that Ms. Doar’s offer to commemorate the Z-Boys in the new building is extremely generous and community-minded.  Chair Fresco stated that the Landmarks Commission’s only job is to landmark buildings if the building meets the Commission’s criteria.  Chair Fresco recommended that the Commission nominate the building for landmark status and investigate further whether it meets landmark criteria.

 

Commissioner Berley asked Commissioner Lehrer if there are precedents in other parts of the country where something significant occurred at a site or improvement which became part of the cultural history of the community.  Commissioner Lehrer responded that she cannot site a specific instance; however, there are many instances where cultural/ethnic history is commemorated with a simple vernacular house.  Commissioner Lehrer advised that cultural history and social impact must be researched and discussed.

 

Commissioner Genser asked Commissioner Lehrer whether the quote from Robert Chattel, who submitted a historical evaluation of the property and states “since this is relatively recent and with living people,” has any bearing on cultural significance.  Commissioner Lehrer responded that this quote applies to this case as there is no age criteria in evaluating cultural significance. 

 

Commissioner Lehrer recommends that the Commission nominate the building for landmark status as Santa Monica and Ocean Park played a central part in skateboarding history.  Commissioner Lehrer noted that the Commission could designate the structure, which is not architecturally significant, with the understanding that the use of the building could change.

 

Chair Fresco noted that if architecturally insignificant buildings must rise to a certain level, it will eliminate a large number of important buildings that represent Santa Monica’s growth and development.  She also noted that there was a strong reaction from people because people wanted to visit the building because of its history.

 

Commissioner Lehrer noted that John Balderssari’s art studio is also important as he is a major artist; therefore, there are two uses of the building which have cultural significance and should be included in the evaluation.

 

Commissioner Genser noted that a consultant would probably report that the site is culturally important but architecturally unimportant.  He stated that he does not support a nomination because there are other possibilities that are unique to this situation even if the Commission might not have purview of those possibilities.  

 

Commissioner Kaplan noted that the owner has not filed for a demolition permit and the building is not in danger yet.  Commissioner Berley noted that the owner is looking for clarity in regard to what course they could take to achieve the goals of the community.

 

Commissioner Shari noted that the new development would assure a place in skateboarding and surfing history for many years to come.  Commissioner Shari stated that she would prefer commemoration in partnership with the owner rather than landmarking the building.

 

Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum advised that there are two courses – one is to make a preliminary assessment about whether the Commission will nominate the property; the other is to forebear on that based on the determination that the Commission is able to do it.  The Commission is acting in a quasi-judicial capacity and is not in a position to give direction to the owner as to use of the property.

 

Commissioner Lehrer made a motion to continue this matter for two months for staff to prepare a more thorough assessment of the property in accordance with the landmark-designation criteria.  Commissioner Kaplan seconded the motion. 

 

A roll call vote was held and the motion was approved by the following vote:

AYES: Berley, Fresco, Genser, Kaplan, Lehrer, Shari

 

11-B.   Discussion on whether to file an application to nominate 312 Wilshire Boulevard as a City Landmark or Structure of Merit.

 

Chair Fresco broke proceedings at 9:55 pm and commenced again at 10:04 pm.

 

Commissioner Genser asked if staff contacted the owner.  Ms. Yeo advised that outreach has been done prior to this meeting and will be done again.

 

Commissioner Genser made a motion for staff to send the owner a registered letter to indicate the Commission’s interest in possibly landmarking his property and that this matter is on the Commission’s priority list.  Commissioner Berley seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote.

 

11-C.  Discussion whether to file an application to nominate the Keller-Block Building at 227 Broadway and 1452-1460 Third Street as a City Landmark or Structure of Merit.

 

Ms. Yeo advised the Commission that the building has undergone several address changes; the actual addresses on the building are 1458 and 1460 Third Street and 223 and 227 Broadway.

 

Commissioner Lehrer asked staff if the owner has been contacted in regard to this discussion.  Ms. Yeo responded in the affirmative; however, the owner did not respond.  Commissioner Lehrer stated that she would like to put this matter on the next agenda.  Commissioner Lehrer stated that the building is one of the most important on the downtown walking tour that the Santa Monica Conservancy has been preparing.  She noted that an application was filed for storefront modification and went to the Architectural Review Board (ARB) but did not come to the Landmarks Commission.  Commissioner Lehrer stated that everything that happens to this building should go before the Landmarks Commission.

 

Commissioner Kaplan asked if a nomination would interfere with scheduling of the Big Blue Bus retail modification as it has already been approved by the ARB.  Commissioner Lehrer responded that it would not be retroactive.

 

Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum stated that the issue before the Commission is whether or not to nominate this building; however, nomination has the effect of staying future actions by both the property owner and the City while the process is ongoing.

 

Commissioner Lehrer stated that if the Commission defers moving forward with the nomination, any problems that the applicant has will emerge during the course of the Commission’s debate.

 

Commissioner Berley stated that it is important to not burden the process as the Commission already knows that some plans have already gone through a certain level of approval.

 

Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum advised that once the Commission files a nomination, the Commission would need to make a determination as to whether or not the building will be landmarked.  He stated that the record needs to be clear that the owner knew the Commission might proceed with a nomination.

 

Commissioner Berley asked the Urban Designer if he knows the status of the ARB application.  Mr. Traeger responded that he did not know the status of the application.  Commissioner Berley asked to continue this matter until the status of the application is known.

 

Commissioner Berley moved that the Commission continue this item until March 12, 2007 and request additional information regarding potential permits for modifications that may be ongoing as well as continued outreach by staff to the property owner.  Commission Shari seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote.

 

11-D.  Discussion regarding Landmarks Commission Rules of Order pertaining to time that owners and applicants are allotted to speak on potential landmark designations that are not initiated by the property owner.

 

Commissioner Genser noted that an owner should have ample time to respond to public testimony if the Landmarks Commission files an application; the code should read “If the application is filed by the Landmarks Commission, the property owner or his/her representative shall be allowed five minutes to present his case and three minutes for rebuttal to public testimony.”

 

Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum noted that there could be situations in which the Commission or another party who is not the owner has filed the application.  Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum advised that this change is done by resolution; he will bring back a resolution that has this kind of language for the next meeting.

 

11-E.   Discussion regarding Landmarks Commissioner attendance at upcoming City Council hearings regarding appeals of Landmarks Commission decisions.

 

Ms. Yeo advised the Commission that the City Council meeting dates are in flux because two appeals moved off the March schedule dates; she will inform the Commission of the upcoming dates.

 

Commissioner Berley will attend the City Council meeting for the appeal of 130-142 San Vicente Boulevard (May 8, 2007).  Commissioner Lehrer will attend the City Council meeting for the appeal of 2402 Fourth Street (May 8, 2007) and 423 Ocean Avenue.  Chair Fresco will attend the City Council meeting on February 27, 2007 for the appeal of 2646 Second Street.

 

 

11-F.   Report from City Council Liaison to the Landmarks Commission on recent City Council actions related to appeals, development projects, planning policy studies and ordinances related to the City’s historic resources, and information concerning future City Council agendas.

 

City Council Liaison McKeown reported that there is an item on the City Council’s agenda for the February 13, 2007 meeting in which they will be discussing a proposal to build a temporary office building behind City Hall.

 

Chair Fresco asked Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum if the City can appeal a denial for a Certificate of Appropriateness if the City “owns” the site.  Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum responded that the City operates as the owner of the property and as a regulator.

 

City Council Liaison McKeown reported that the City Council approved the budget priorities for the year.  One of the expressed priorities is culture in the context of the Creative Capital Report.  Commissioner Lehrer asked City Council Liaison McKeown if there is a cultural master plan in progress.  City Council Liaison McKeown responded that the plan will be presented before the City Council on February 27, 2007 and the final draft will be published by February 16, 2007.

 

City Council Liaison McKeown noted that there is an opening on the Landmarks Commission as the resignation of the previous Commissioner has been formally accepted by the City Council.  The selection of a new Commissioner will be on the City Council’s agenda fairly soon.  It would be helpful if the Commissioners  review the applicants and make suggestions to Council members.

 

11-G.  Report from Landmarks Commission Liaison to the Architectural Review Board (ARB) on recent ARB consideration and action taken on proposed projects involving additions to or modifications of potential historic resources.

 

Commissioner Berley reported that the applicant for the Zucky’s building went before the ARB for approval of their signage; the applicant wanted to change the colors of the building to accommodate same.  The ARB was not able to make a decision at that time as they showed concern that the signage was double the allowable square footage; the application for the signage will be going before the ARB on February 28, 2007.  Commissioner Berley stated that he was concerned about the color of the Zucky’s sign as the applicant was given guidance by the ARB in regard to a temporary pallet of colors to use; the pylon is now painted green.  Commissioner Berley stated that the color needs to come before the Commission for approval since the sign is landmarked; if the owner of the building painted the sign in the original color (dark chocolate brown), the matter would not need to come before the Commission for a Certificate of Appropriateness.  Commissioner Berley stated that it would be helpful if the Commission had a discussion about the color of the sign.

 

Commissioner Kaplan asked Commissioner Berley if the size of the signage was double the square footage because of the Zucky’s sign.  Commissioner Berley responded that the owners felt they needed a greater presence because of the Zucky’s sign.  Commissioner Kaplan asked if the owners should be given some flexibility because they have a landmark to work around.  Urban Designer Traeger responded that the Zucky’s sign is not calculated in the allowable area; the owner is allowed larger signage because it is around a corner.

 

11-H.   Planning Commission Case List (Information Only).

 

12.       WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:

 

12-A.   Information on how property owners can order a Landmark Designation plaque.

 

Chair Fresco commented that it is graphically well done; however, it is difficult for an owner of a landmark to find the information to order the plaque.  She commented that the information in regard to the verbiage on the sign comes too soon.  Chair Fresco stated that the size, cost and where to order the plaque should be on the second paragraph; in smaller print, the brochure should include comments regarding appropriate verbiage on the plaque which will need to come before the Landmarks Commission for approval.

 

12-B.   Letter from Pier Restoration Corporation to Landmarks Commission regarding Pier Bridge and Ramp project.

 

The following members of the public addressed the Commission: Jerry Rubin

 

Commissioner Lehrer noted that she went to the Pier Restoration Corporation (PRC) because she was advised that they were going to give a visual presentation of the project; she is still waiting for the “virtual reality” drawings.  She noted that the PRC did not give this presentation.  She also noted that the schematics in the environmental impact report are very difficult to decipher.  She stated that the Commission regretted that it did not work with the PRC much earlier in regard to the Pier Bridge and access; the Landmarks Commission had many concerns regarding the impact on the historic character of the Pier.  Commissioner Lehrer added that the Commission tried to have a joint meeting but members of the PRC did not attend; the Commission should try to have a meeting with the PRC again to discuss the concerns and objectives in regard to this project.

 

Commissioner Berley stated that the PRC should have a representative speak to the Commission about this issue and present the slide presentation.

 

Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum noted that the issue of the Landmarks Commission’s role in issuing a Certificate of Appropriateness may impact the propriety of having a joint meeting.

 

Commissioner Genser asked Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum if it is appropriate for the Commission to place this issue on the agenda as a presentation.  Senior Land Use Attorney Rosenbaum stated that the Commission could ask staff to investigate this issue.

 

Commission Genser made a motion to ask staff to find the most appropriate way for the Commission to interface with the PRC.  Commissioner Berley seconded the motion.  The motion was approved by voice vote.

 

Commissioner Genser stated that the PRC referenced this process and plan at the Board and Commission meeting and not in a public forum; it is not an appropriate reference.

 

Commissioner Berley asked staff if there is a timeline related to this item coming before the Commission.  Ms. Yeo responded that the next step of the project is to go before the City Council for certification of the environmental impact report and staff will provide copies of the final environmental impact report to the Commission when it is available.

 

13.       FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:  (Requests from Commissioners to add items to upcoming agendas)

 

Commissioner Berley asked to have a discussion about the criteria which consultants use to evaluate structures within the City and whether it would be worthwhile to form an ad hoc subcommittee to meet with some of the consultants to discuss their concerns. 

 

Commissioner Berley asked that Marjorie Campbell be invited to file an application to landmark her building and put this on a future agenda.  Ms. Yeo responded that staff would work with the property owner.

 

14.       NEXT MEETING DATE AND COMMISSION AGENDA: Regular Meeting:

7:00 PM Monday, March 12, 2007; City Council Chambers, Room 213, City Hall.

 

15.       ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Lehrer made a motion to adjourn at 11:05 pm on Monday, February 12, 2007.  Commissioner Shari seconded the motion.